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წერილი Experti » 27 ოქტ 2009, 22:31

kiTxva:

mama giorgi,sasuliero pirebi,romlebic axdenen wmidanis kanonizirebas,Seracxvas,aucilebelia Tu ara,rom Tavad iyvnen wmidanebi?
pasuxi:

WeSmariti RvTismsaxuri rom wmidani unda iyos,amaSi ori azri ar arsebobs!..miT umetes,roca saqme wmidanis Seracxvas exeba!sxva rom araferi vTqvaT,uxerxulia,codvilma Seracxos wmidani!
kiTxva:

mama giorgi,saqarTvelos eklesiis sinods ewodeba wmida sinodi.aqedan gamomdinare aucilebelia sinodis wevri iyos wmidani?pasuxi:

ra Tqma unda!...saqarTvelos eklesia wmidaa!...eklesiaSi arc saxeli,arc wodeba da arc raime simbolo ara aris SemTxveviTi,Seusvbamo da Sinaarss moklebuli!yvelafers Rrma sulieri datvirTva aqvs!"wmida sinodi "–es aris wmida mRvdelmTavarTa sabWo ,kreba da ara raime wmida adgilze Sekrebili sasuliero pirTa raodenoba.

nu dagvaviwydeba,Tu ra mZime aTwleulebi gamoiara qarTulma eklesiam uRmrTo xelisuflebis xelSi!wmidanebis gamozrda metad rTuli procesia!...ucbad yvelaferi ar xdeba!...me adrec vTqvi da kidev vimeoreb.saqarTveloSi modis dro,roca yvela mRvdelmsaxuri namdvili iqneba!uRirsebs eklesia moicilebs!...kiTxva:

mama giorgi,Tqven brZaneT,rom namdvili mRvdeli didia RmerTis TvalSi,is didi ZaliTa da madliT hyavs RmerTs Semosili.xom ver gvetyodiT namdvili(wmida)mRvdelmsaxuris sulier SesaZleblobebze?pasuxi:

ki batono,mogaxsenebT!...magram ,sanam samdvil mRvdelze getyodeT,minda daviwyo namdvili diakvniT,radgan dRes bevri ver afasebs namdvili diakvnis SesaZleblobebs.

rodesac monazoni an morwmune diakvnis xarisxSi ahyavT,maSin mas RvTisgan exsneba gonebrivi da sulieri SesaZleblobebis 30%.mokled getyviT ra Sedis amaSi.namdvili diakoni –arCevs sulebs,xedavs haerSi borot sulebs,kiTxulobs adamianis azrebs da telepatiur doneze SeuZlia isaubros mRvdelTan.RmerTi ismens mis locvebs,magram is namdvili mRvdeliviT ver ixedeba adamianis Sinagan samyaroSi(gulsa da sulSi).

rodesac diakvani masze daSvebul did Zalas Seegueba,uxeSad rom vTqvaT,"aiTvisebs"(es mdgomareoba pirovnulia.zogi mas ufro adre aRwevs,zogic–cota mogvianebiT),mas akurTxeben mRvdlad.am dros mas emateba kidev 30%.ukve namdvili mRvdeli xedavs adamianis sulsa da guls,icis adamianis codvebi,warsuli.naTlobis saidumlos Sesrulebisas xedavs borots,romelic zis mosanaTlis sxeulSi an sulSic da gandevnis mas.flobs dros da sivrces,SeuZlia sxeulidan gamosvla,Sor manZilze esmis laparaki,icis adamianTa azrebi da zraxvebic,aqvs uwyeba micvalebulis adgilsamyofelze,sulier arsebebze da aseve materiaze zemoqmedebis didi Zala.

namdvil mRvdels SeuZlia usityvod aRZras adamianSi sinanuli,gaaxsenos codvebi,mohgvaros siyvaruli da sixaruli.daidos adamianis codvebi da Zalian mokle droSi TviTon gamoitiros isini.namdvilma mRvdelma icis,gvpatiobs Tu ara RmerTi codvebs,Tu raime sasjels(epitemias)iTxovs.icis adamians esa Tu is gansacdeli an satanjveliromeli konkretuli codvis gamo mieca RvTisagan.SeuZlia mouxsnas jado,wyevla.

namdvili mRvdeli namyofia sasufevelSi da zustad icis,rogor miiyvanos iq misi mrevli.

es aris mokled namdvili mRvdlis SesaZleblobebi.
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წერილი Delete » 27 ოქტ 2009, 22:32

Experti, bodishi, tu udroo dros vpostav, ragac minda gkitxo. Pirveli mec maqvs, mara meore wigni ar ishoveba arsad da el.versia meoresic xom ar gaqvs?
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წერილი Experti » 27 ოქტ 2009, 22:36

kiTxva:

mama giorgi,erTma moZRvarma gviTxra,mama gabrieli ar aris wmidani,radgan masze ar dawerila arc tropari da arc kondakio.
pasuxi:

me ver gavige ratom gixsenaT man tropar–kondaki?!gana tropar –kondaki aqcevs kacs wmidanad?!an kidev,tropar–kondaki rogor daiwerebod,aroca eklesias oficialurad ar Seuracxavs gabrieli wmidanad! me ar vici ras fiqrobs is mRvdeli gabrielze,mara Cem azrs getyviT:gabrieli udidesi wmidania RmerTis winaSe,is RmrTisgan aris wmidani da vin da rodis dawers tropars,amas CemTvis ara aqvs arsebiTi mniSvneloba!Tu gwamT gabrieli,evedreT mas da naxavT,Tu SeuSlis xels gabriels Tqvens SewevnaSi is,rom masze tropar–kondakis dawera jer ar gadauwyvetiaT zerele da urwmuno adamianebs.



"gaxsovdeT,me TqvenTan var!me ki ar vkvdebi,aramed mivdivar da male moval!"

beri gabrieli

kiTxva:

mama giorgi,rodis gaxda mama gabrieli wmidani?
pasuxi:

mama gabrieli ki ar gaxda,aramed daibada wmidanad!gasagebia?...Tqven cota iciT da sxvebs amowmebT!...daRupavT suls,babua!...

gabrieli wmidani iyo maSinac,roca saqarTveloSi mas mRvdlebi ar aziarebdnen!...gasagebia?!...is mRvdeli iyo RmerTis TvalSi maSinac,roca mas mRvdloba SeCerebuli hqonda!...gasagebia?!

rodis unda gamoiRviZoT!...gabrielis devna ar unda iyos qarTveli eris Cakvirvebisa da sulieri gamoRviZebis sagani?!nuTu ver xvdebiT,ras geubnebiT?!...ra dReSi vyofilvarT da varT kidev jerjerobiT!

gabriels,am WeSmaritad udides moZRvars,saqarTveloSi ar aziarebdnen!...mereda vin?!...gana isev qarTveli samRvdeloeba ara?!...gana qarTveli mRvdelmTavrebisagan ar hqonda akrZaluli mRvdelmsaxureba?!...ra didi gansja amas unda!...Tavad es faqti metyvelebs yvelaferze!...raSi iyo saqme?!ver scnobdnen gabriels Tu ver itandnen mas?!...Tu imas ityvian,rom ver scnobdenen,ai,me ra sgetyviT:

sasuliero piri,iqneba is episkoposi Tu mRvdeli,romelic ver scnobs da suliT ver grZnobs wmidans,miuxedavad imisa,rogoradac ar unda iqceodes garegnulad wmidani,ar SeiZleba CaiTvalos sulier moZRvrad,radgan sulieri xedva ar gaaCnia.aseT sasuliero pirebs codvilis sasufevelSi ayvana ar SeuZliaT,radganac isini aq,miwaze ver scnobdnen WeSmaritebis sulis matarebels!...amitom veravin sasulieroTagan,romelmac gabrieli ver icno,ver imarTlebs amiT Tavs!

axla vTqvaT meore–gabrieli bevrma icno kidevac,magram devnidnen swored imitom,rom ar iyvnen misi sulis,radgan kompartias damorCidebulsasuliero pirebze,romlebsac RmerTze metad kompartiisa da kgb–s SiSi hqondaT,ra Tqma unda,WeSmaritebis suli ar daivanebda!gabrieli ebrZoda borotebas maSin,roca qveyana borotebis xanaSi imyofeboda,da roca sasuliero pirebi xmis amoRebas ver bedavdnen!...gabrielis cxovreba da moRvaweoba udidesi movlenaa!...da mis pirovnebas sulieri moZRvrebi unda acnobdene da aswavlidnen ers da ara ise,erTi–orjer rom axseneben:–gabrieli wmidani iyoo...ki ar iyo,aramed aris!...gabriel beri "Cavlili matarebeli" nu ggoniaT!...RmerTi awi ganabrwyinebs mas mTeli didebiT da Tan pasuxs mosTxovs yvlas mis devna–Seviwrovebaze!...ise, "gemoze"gabrielis devnas veravin miCqmalavs!...verc mis Rvawlsa da swavlebas miaCumaTeben ise,rogorc es maT surT!...gabrielis Zala yvelas aqvs Tavis Tavze gamocdili,keTilsac da borotsac.keTili ver bedavda gabrielze ramis Tqmas,boroti ki mZvinvarebiT anTxevda gesls!

kidev vimeoreb–gabrielis cxovreba unda iqnes saTanadod Seswavlili da unda ganemartos xalxs misi Rvawlis ZiriTadi arsi.radgan iSviaTad aris calke aRebuli wmidani,romelsac egzom rTul da borot drosaseTi mZime jvari da misia etvirTos eris cxovrebaSi.

SimSili,tkivili,sicive,usaxlkaroba,glaxakoba,quCa–quCa wanwali,lanZRva–gineba,sagiJeTi,cixe....da devnagamovlil gabrielze ise,sasxvaTaSorisod,ufro ki sakuTari "sulieri Rirsebis"xazgasasmelad rom saubroben tanjvagamouvleli,axalgazrda,lamazad da koxtad mowyobili da Tbil taZrebSi mlocveli sasuliero pirebi,guli lamis aris amovardes!...gabriel beri xSirad ityoda gulgatexili:"me ver gamigo qarTvelma erma".es"ver gamigo"imas ki ar niSnavda,rom didebasa da pativs iTxovda vinmesgan,an qonebasa da Tanamdebobas!...

gabrielis rom ar esmodaT,dResac naTlad Cans!bevrs weren gabrielze ,da weren sazogadoebis mierve wmidanebze Seqmnili "CarCoebis"farglebSi,ara aqvT Setanili is mTavari,risTvisac ibrZoda gabrieli.weren mis saswaulebze da aseTi saswaulebi sxva wmidanebsac bevri CaudeniaT.me yvela wigni da gamocema wavikiTxe gabrielze da getyviT,bevri ram misi gamonaTqvamebidan Segnebulad ar aris Setanili.bevri kidev gadakeTebulia da morgebulia "cenzurasa da CarCoebs"!...an nu dawer, da Tu wer,unda geyos sulieri vaWkacoba,dawero ise,rogoradac gabriels gamouTqvams.mas Tqveni daxmareba da Selamazeba ar sWirdeba!...mas araferi eSleboda!...is arasodes moqceula oficiozis CarCoebSi da mis naTqvamebs saTqvenod nu gamoiyenebT,Torem pasuxs agebT!...

gabriels ar eSleboda,roca ambobda:"RmerTs samyaroSi yvelaze wmida adgili sasufeveli aqvs,xolo aq,dedamiwaze–sveticxoveli"...ierusalimi man Tqvenze adre icoda...Tqven nu "exmarebiT"gabriels "wesis" dacvaSi.man icoda,ras ambobda!...es Tqven ar iciT,is ras ambobda!...da rom ar iciT da ar mogewonaT,"SeusworeT"gabriels?!...Tu ar gesmis gabrielis da ar ici vin aris,ratom wer masze?!sasjelis saqmea es!

dRes "damkveTebi"ise alaparakeben bevrs gabrielze,rogorc Tavad awyobT!...maT surT,iseTi gabrieli gaacnon saqarTvelos,rogoricmaT awyobT!..magram icodeT:gabriels vicnobdiT Cven da me vici ,vin aris is!...sxvaa misi cnoba da sxvaa misi "naxva".sxvaa misi gageba da sxvaa masTan siaruli!...sxvaa misi saqmis erTguleba da sxvaa saflavebze yvavilebis mitana da Tundac movla!..gabriels rom ise eqadaga,rogorc es "cenzuragamovlil" wignebSi iwereba,ra iqneboda gaugebari?!magram gabrielma ise iqadaga,rogorc RmerTma aqadaga.amitom iZaxda mama gabrieli."me ver gamigo qarTvelma ermao"...da rom RmerTma aqadaga,vin unda gabedos misi sityvebis "gadasinjva","gafiltvra",sazogado normebTan misadageba.

vinc "tyavs" ufrTxildeba da ara suls,vafrTxileb:gabrieli male gamoCndeba!..gaigeT es sityva,rogorc gindodeT,me ki vici rasac vambob!...

gabrielis qadagebebs male gangimartavT is,visac yvelaze metad esmis misi–vinc Tavad gabrielis gamozrdilia!...gabriels warmoaCens is,visac mieca amis ufleba RmerTidan da ara isini,vinc davalebiT cdiloben da ecdebian amis gakeTebas!..

erTi movida CemTan da gamokiTxva damiwyo:"Tqven rogor da saidan icnobdiT mama gabriels,me masTan arasodes minaxixarTo!"...Tavxedi!...is gabrielTanac davalebiT dadioda da CemTanac ese movida,sacodavi!gabrieli,TqvenTan mjdomi,keliidan gausvlelad,ise moivlis samyaros,rom Tqven amis"gagebaSic"ar iyaviT.is elaparakeboda sulierad wmidanebs amerikaSic,maSinac ki,roca Tqvens saubars ismenda xorcielad,Tqven win mjdomi,gasagebia?!...

gabrielis madli odnavadac rom SeeSva sulSi im utifars,aseT kiTxvas rava damisvamda,aramed suliT micnobda mec!...mara ra unda ecno,roca sulgayiduli iyo!...
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წერილი Experti » 27 ოქტ 2009, 22:39

kiTxva:

mama giorgi,Tqven xSirad axsenebT,rom "eZebT adamians".ras gulisxmobT amaSi,vis eZebT,mamao?

pasuxi:

getyviT:"veZeb adamians" niSnavs,veZeb RmrTis mcnebebis aRsrulebis mosurnes!...dRes ki adamianebi codvilebi,anc 10 mcnebisa da RvTis kanonebis damrRvevni arian.

dRes wmidanebis Zalian didi Zalisxmevaa mimarTuli codvilebis gaaddamianurebisken.amis Semdgom ki wmidanebi cdiloben am gaadaminurebuli formebis morwmuned gadaqcevas.modi CamovayaliboT sulieri mdgomareobis safexurebi:

1.codvili.

2.adamiani.

3.morwmune–morwmuned iTvleba is,romelsac Cabarebuli aqvs abraamis gamocda,anu is,visTvisac RmerTia mTavari.

mere modis:

4.monazoni anumorCili–es aris RvTis kanonebis Semecnebis damwyebi.aq igulisxmeba ara marto xorcieli yofa monasterSi.
5.beri anu pirovneba–gamocdili,natanji,asakovani monazoni.

6.wmidani anu individi–Tavisi inadividualuri SemecnebiT.

amis zeviT kidev aris sakmao sulieri safexurebi,magram aq SevCerdeT.

rogorc vxedavT sulierebis yvela safexuri iwyeba swored adamianisagan.amitom aris ase mTavari adamianis povna,ufro sworad,gaadamianureba.es sakmaod rTuli procesi Tanamedrove yofaSi.aRmoaCinos,Tu romel safexurze imyofeba.

..naxeT ra dReSi varT dRes!...bevrs gaadamianureba ar ganucdia,rom araferi vTqvaT morwmuned Camoyalibebaze da marTaven qveyanas,partiebs,adamianTa sxvadasxva jgufebs,maswavlebloben,mkurnaloben da mRvdloben kidec!...sicruea es yovelive!....gana morwmuned mxolod imitom SeiZleba CaiTvalos kaci,rom mas RmerTis arsebobisa swams?!...eSmakebs gana ufro ara swamT?!...Tu gsurs gaxde morwmune,jer unda gaxde adamiani,anu RmrTis mcnebebis aRmsrulebeli,amis Semdeg unda Caabaro abraamis gamocda!...aq cinikurad nuravin ityvis:"rava,Svili unda movklao?"...es keTilgonivrulad unda gaigoT!...RmerTi unda gaxdes TqvenTvis upirvelesi da umniSvnelovanesi!...RmerTi unda giyvardes yvelaze da yvelaferze aRmatebulad!...Zneli adamianis wmidanad gamozrda,magram aucilebeli!...adamianma yvela aq CamoTvlili safexuri unda gaiaros wmida moZRvris xelmZRvanelobiT wmidanobis gzaze.
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წერილი Experti » 27 ოქტ 2009, 23:01

kiTxva:

mama giorgi,Cven cocxal,anu dRes momqmed wmidanebTan urTierTobis gamocdileba ara gvaqvs da arc vicnobT maT.ra rCevasa da kurTxevas mogvcemdiT maTTan misasvlelad,ra aucilebeli moTxovna unda davicvaT?
pasuxi:

roca midixarT wmidanTan umjobesia sami dRe mainc iyoT namarxulevi.RmerTis sidiade iTxovs moSiSebas,mokrZalebas da Tayvaniscemas.es ar niSnavs,rom RmerTs ar surs SenTan urTierToba,magram adamianis bunebaa dRs gadagvarebuli da codvis mwikvlSi amosvrili.pirveli da ZiriTadi,rac unda sTxovo wmidans,Cemi azriT,is aris,rom man gagagebinos ra aris RmerTis neba Senze.ra surs RmerTs,ras elodeba RmerTi Sengan.ra aris Seni wuTisoflad mosvlis arsi,Seni misia!rogorc amas gaarkvev da es SeiZleba pirvelsave misvlaze ar moxdes,aramed,imisda mixedviT,Tu ra mdgomareobaSia Seni suli,goneba da guli,radgan RmerTis misaRebad codvili adamianis sulsa da gonebas momzadeba sWirdeba!...mokled,rodesac gaarkvev amas,mere unda sTxovo RmerTs dagayenos im gzaze,romelic Tavad mas surs SenTvis.amis Semdeg ki unda gamoiTxovo kurTxeva,Zala da Sewevna,rom RmerTis mier miTiTebuli gza Rirseulad ganvlo da Seasrulo Seni misia.rac axla mokled CamovTvaleT,Cemi azriT,mTavaria adamianisaTvis,romelic irCevs RmerTs,eZiebs cxonebas da saukuno netarebas.magram aqve unda iTqvas,rom aris RmerTis neba da aris RmerTis daSveba...anu RmerTi aZlevs adamians Tavisufal nebas icxovros ise,rogorc surs–airCios an keTili,an boroti.am arCevanSi RmerTi adamians Zalas ar atans,Tumca impulsebs keTilis asarCevad ki ugzavnis!

dRes adamianTa umetesoba Segnebulad ar eZebs RmerTis nebas,radgan SiSobs ar dakargos Tavisi xedviTa da surviliT mowyobili cxovreba,an kidev imis SiSiT,rom RmerTma mas monasterSi Sedgoma ar mosTxovos.getyviT:monasteri yvelasTvis rodia!monasteri –berebis saqmea!...da yvela ar aris beri.

bevri Tavisdauneburad dgas RmerTisagan gansazRvrul gzaze,an mSoblebis rCeviT,an moZRvris,an ubralod,Tavisi gaucnobierebeli gadawyvetilebiT ise,rom mas es arc uTxovia RmerTisaTvis.aseTebs kargad aqvT saqme!...magram mainc unda miiRon dasturi wmidanisagan,gaacnobieron yovelive da iTxovon Sewevna,raTa udrtvinvelad ganvlon miwieri cxovrebis gza.

axla vnaxoT isini,visac garkveuli ara aqvs Tavisi daniSnuleba–misia.maTTvis,ra Tqma unda ufro Znelia,radgan adamiani unda "gadaewyos" da Secvalos bevri ram Tavis cxovrebaSi,magram "sjobs gvian,vidre arasdros!"...Tu adamiani ar dgas im gzaze,romelic RmerTma misTvis moisurva,ragind simdidresa da pativSi ar imyofebodes,sulier simSvides verasodes hpovebs!...amitom adamianisaTvis,rogorc giTxariT,mTavari aris is,rom gamoiZios RmerTis neba masze da morCilebiT dauTmos RmerTis nebas.axla gavagrZeloT wmidanebze:aris,roca wmidani geqceva ara ise,rogorc es Sen warmoidgine.wmidans SeuZlia ar mogces saSualeba,rom dausva winaswar gamzadebuli SekiTxvebi.aseT dros nu mieZalebi,radgan wmidans ver aiZuleb,jer erTi da,meorec,wmidanma icis razec xar mosuli.is upasuxod ar dagtovebs,magram is mTavarze muSaobs,amzadebs suls RmerTis nebis misaRebad.SeiZleba wmidanma ar "migiRos",amis gakeTeba mas SeuZlia rogorc "delikaturad",aseve "uxeSadac" da es TavmdablobiTa da Tavis yvedrebiT unda miiRoT.wmidans SeuZlia gamogcados moTminebaSi, rwmenasa da moSiSebaSi da mere migiRos.wmidanTan gamomcdelad da kadnierad misvla codvaa!...wmidani,TandaTan,dagimyarebs ra sulSi "kontaqts",SenTvis gasagebi gaxdeba,Tu rogor da ra saxiT moqmedebda SenTan mimarTebaSi.wmidans SeuZlia:codvilad mogaCvenos Tavi,gagexsnas,Zala gamoavlinos,mogeferos,mogces sinanuli,gagaxsenos codvebi,romlebic arc ki gaxsovs.amis ostatoba aqvT wmidanebs.wmidanma xalxSi rom ar gamxilos,SeiZleba moyves raRac istoria "mis codvaze".am dros Sen azrobrivi signali mogawodos ise,rom Sens irgvlivmyofT,azradac ar mouvaT,rom es Seni codvebi iTqva da ara mamaosi!...wmidans SeuZlia pirdapir gipasuxos SekiTxvebze.SeuZlia mesame pirTan laparakSi gauwyos is,rac Sen gainteresebda...an kidev SeuZlia agalaparakos Sen TviTon da sakuTari piriT gaTqmevinos is,rasac misgan elodi ise,rom mxolod saubris dasasruls mixvdebi:es yvelaferi,rac mohyevi,Senve gexeboda da pasuxic iyo masSi.

wmidani sruliad akontrolebs masTan misuls!...wmidani zemoqmedebs adamianze ara marto sityvierad–mxilebiT an SegonebiT,aramed uCinrad, anu suliT ise,rom xmac ar gagces..SeiZleba mTeli saaTi Sens axlo–maxlo xalxTan ilaparakos,agiar–Cagiaros ise,rom axlosac ver mixvide,magram nu ifiqreb,rom ar "mogxeda"an ar "migiRo".ara!–is manam ar "gagiSvebs" taZridan,sanam Seni sulisTvis im momentSi aucilebels ar moimoqmedebs ise,rom Sen arc ki gamogesaubros.

wmidans SeuZlia,zogjer,Tavi ucodinar da codvil adamianad warmogidginos,im dros,roca Sen hgoneb,rom is wmidaa.aseT dros nu amCatdebiT!...an SeuZlia ise warmogiCinos Tavi,rom Seni problemis gadaWra mas ar ZaluZs.nurc aseT dros iqnebi sulmokle.aris,roca wmidani masTan kadnierad da Tavxedad misuls,Tavad gamoiwvevs,gauRizianebs"pativmoyvareobas".SeiZleba Seuracxyos kidevac,ris gamoc es kaci "garbis",riTac wmidani icavs mas da ganaridebs im codvisagan,romelic SeeZlo mas Caedina wmidanTan kadnieri da uxeSi miaxloebiT!...zogjer wmidani gamoiwvevs adamians,romelic morwmune da patiosani kacis niRabSi borot sulsa da guls malavs.mokled,wmidans SeuZlia aTasnairad moiqces.mas yvela sityva ,moZraoba gaTvlili aqvs.gaTvlili aqvs isic,ramdeni adamiani miiyvanos masTan erT konkretul dRes.wmidani ,Tavisi kacTmoyvare bunebidan gamomdinare,erideba adamianebis wyeninebas....magram xandaxan,roca es sulisaTvis aucilebelia,Zalianac atkans maT,dascems SiSsac!...Tumca wmidanebi SiSs ukidures SemTxvevaSi iyeneben.wmidanma SeiZleba gagiSvas"nawyeni",rom masze didi warmodgenis ar iqne da verc madliereba gamoxato raime saxiT.nu ggoniaT vinme "SemTxveviT" mivides wmidanTan!...bevrs hgonia ase!...TiTqos megobarma miiyvana,axlobelma daaZala da a.S.wmidanTan rom midixar,es Tavad wmidanis "Cawyobilia"!...is amas winaswar gagmavs da angariSobs,Tu ra sababiT da ra xerxiT migiyvanos RmerTTan.adamianis sulze gaafTrebuli brZolaa wmidanebsa da boroteb Soris.wmidani gegmavs,boroti ki xels uSlis adamianis miyvanas eklesiaSi.amitom nu fiqrobT,rom iyaviT wmidanTan da rame sasargeblo Tqven ar migiRiaT.is ki ara,"zedac ar Semouxedavs".ai,im dros,roca man "zedac ar SemogxedaT",wmidani uxilavad muSaobs Tqven sulze,gaaqvs cudi da gavsebs madliTa da energiiT.aseve moqmedebs Tqven gonebaze da fizikur sxeulzec.wmidanebs Zalian uyvarT adamianebi.winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi RmerTi ar miscemda maT aseT Zalas.wmidanebi SeiZleba "gagiwyrnen",magram arasodes gangikiTxaven,radgan maTac codvebis didi gza aqvT gamovlili.romelime Tqvengans Tu mosvlia TavSi aseTi kiTxva–ratom RmerTma angelozebi ar daadgina mRvdlebad?...maTac xom SeuZliaT xorcieli sxeulis miReba?...arc mogividodaT da romc mogsvlodaT,verc upasuxebdiT!...me getyviT ratom:–imitom,rom angelozebi ucodvelni arian,maT ar ician codva!...isini RmerTis nebas zedmiwevniT aRasruleben da amasve iTxoven adamianTa modgmisaganac.radganac codva ar ician,isini mkacrebi arian codvilTa mimarT!...maTi buneba codvas ver itans!...erT–erTi wmida mamis gadmocemiT,mfarveli angelozi ar ekareba sigaretis mwevel adamians.dRes sigaretis weva ki ara,ra saZagel codvas ar Cadian adamianebi!

aba vnaxoT wmidanebi!...radganac isini xorcieli bunebis arian,maTTvis ucxo ar aris codvebi.maT ician codva,codvis simZime.is,Tu ras ganicdis da rogor itanjeba codvili.amas wmidanebi sxvisi naTqvamiT ki ar ganicdian,aramed sakuTari gamocdilebiT.maT Tavadac aqvT Canadeni codvebi, davinaidan RmerTma apatia maT codvebi da ician Sendobis sixaruli, erTi suli aqvT,daexmaron codvilebs,Tan isini movalenic arian miutevon codvebi,radgan maTac miuteva RmerTma!...ziarebis wina locvebi geqnebaT wanakiTxi...iq wmida mamebi codvebs rom CamoTvlian,ggoniaT,Cvens mxolod saswavleblad da momavali codvilebis wasakiTxad daweres marto?ara,babua,isini am sityvebiT TavianT codvebzec werdnen da tirodnen.wmidani codvils rom uyurebs Tavisi codva axsendeba da mis mimarT siZulvils ki ara,sibralulsa da siyvaruls ganicdis.kidev gimeorebT:wmidanebs ise uyvarT adamianebi,sikvdilzec midian codvilis gadasarCenad.wmidanebi TavianT Tavze iReben adamianTa codvebs da exmarebian maT codvis gamotirebaSi.

adamianebze meoxeba ki ara,yofilan berebis istoriaSi iseTi wmidanebi,romlebic evedrebodnen RmerTs,rom mas Seendo borotisTvis Secodebani.aseT dones aRwevda wmidanTa siyvaruli codvilebis mimarT.angelozebi bilwi da garyvnili adamianebis sazogadoebas ar ekarebian,miT umetes,maT sxeulebSi ar Sevlen TavianTi bunebidan gamomdinare!...wmidanebi ki ucodviles adamianTa sazogadoebaSi trialeben da suliTac Sedian aseTi adamianebis sxeulSi,raTa aRZran maTSi RmrTisadmi swrafva,ase vTqvaT,"daqoqon" da daicvan im borot sulTagan,romlebic Cabudebulebi hyavT maT da romelTa uxilavi ZafebiT arian Sekrulni.wmidanebs es SeuZliaT,radganac maT didi simtkice gamoumuSavdaT.
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წერილი Experti » 27 ოქტ 2009, 23:05

kiTxva:

mama giorgi,ratom aris,rom Cvens droSi wmidanebi ar aRasruleben iseT saswaulebs,rogorc es Zvel droSi xdeboda wmida mamaTa mier.ra aris amis mizezi?

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vin giTxra,rom dRes wmidanebis mier ar aResruleba saswaulebi?!Zveli drois saswaulebs im Jamis adamianebisaTvis sxva datvirTva hqondaT–maTi zogadi ganviTarebis Sesatyvisi.dRes adamiani ki ganviTarebis sxva safexurze imyofeba.dResac xdeba saswaulebi da ara erTi da ori,magram yvelaze didi saswauli,yvelaze aucillebeli da macxovnebeli saswauli,rac odiTgan dRemde aRusrulebiaT wmidanebs,aris uxilavi saswauli,anu saswauli ara adamianis gareT,aramed adamianis SigniT.es aris saswauli,romelic gardaqmnis mis Sinagan samyaros.es aris sulis gawmenda da qriste macxovrisTvis sulis momzadeba.am garegnulad uxilavi,magram yvela saswaulze aRmatebuli saswauliT qriste imkvidrebs adamianis gulSi da amis Semdeg ki adamiani amCnevs mis gareT yovelwuTierad aRsrulebul uamrav saswauls qveynierebaze.wmidanis mier aRsrulebul am saswauls adamiani TvaliT ver xedavs,is mxolod grZnobs amas mis SigniT.am saswaulis wyalobiT adamiani Seicnobs sauTar Tavs,mis sulier samyaros.
wmida mamebi ki weren:–"adamini,romelmac SesZlo sakuTari Tavis Secnoba,ufro didia imaze,vinc ixila angelozio."..ai ,ratom aris,rom wmidanebi ar mieltvian xilul saswaulebs,Tumca SesaZlebelia es maTTvis!

wmidanis daniSnuleba adamianis mimarTebaSi aris misi gadarCena,ganwmenda da RmerTamde miyvana...da ara RmrTisagan boZebuli Zalisa da SesaZleblobebis gamovlineba–demonstrireba!

Tu adamians sulieri samyaro ara aqvs gasufTavebuli da momzadebuli,ra azri aqvs gauxeSebuli gulis adamianis Tvalwin micvalebuli rom aRadginos wmidanma?...an kidev gaCndes da gaqres?!...es saswaulebi wamiT gaakvirvebs codvils,magram cota xanSi isev urwmunoeba daabnelebs eWvebiT.aseTi saswauliT SeiZleba urwmunoTa mcire nawilma iwamos RmerTi,magram es ver Secvlis maT sulier samyaros,radgan suli mxolod masze uSualo zemoqmedebiT iwmindeba da icvleba....da ara mis gareT nanaxi wmidanis Zalis dafiqsirebiT.adamianis gareT aRsrulebuli yvela saswauli mxolod ubiZgebs mas rwmenisken,magram Tavisi mniSvnelobiT da SedegebiT ver Seedreba im saswauls,rasac wmidanebi adamianis sulze, mis Sinagan samyaroze uSualo zemoqmedebiT axdenen.wmidanises saswauli anTebs adamianis gulSirwmenis,sasaobisa da siyvarulis Cauqrobel cecxls.cecxls,romelic wvavs masSi yovelgvari codvis fesvebs da aseve garedan momavali codvebis badesa da xlarTebs.es udidesi saswaulia,es adamianis Secvlis saswaulia,rac yvelaze Zneli aRsasrlebelia.

didi wmidanebs dResac ar uWirT purisa da oqros gaCena,materiss Secvla,kurneba,drosa da sivrceSi gadaadgileba,magram adamianis sulis Secvla gacilebiT Zneli saqmea da dRes amasac aRasruleben wmidanebi.Tumca am saswauls veravin xedavs adamianTagan garda imisa,viszedac aResruleba es saswauli...maSin,roca adamianis gareT aRsrulebul saswauls SeiZleba Zalian bevrma mohkras Tvali.gavixsenoT TviT qristemacxovris xiluli saswaulebi.rava,eqnaT uriebs sargebeli?!puri ganumravla,aTasobiT mSieri ganaZRo,xeibrebi da brmebi gankurna,lazarec aRadgina mkvdreTiT da kidev uamravi sxva saswauli,romelsac asobiT da aTasobiT ebraeli adevnebda Tvals,magram am garegnulma saswaulebma ver Secvales maTi gaciebuli da gandgomili gulebi!...maT rogoradac miiRes es saswaulebi,iseve uarhyves isini....magram naxeT saswauli qriste macxovrisa,romelic ar yofila xiluli,romelic aravis SeuniSnavs da romelzedac eWvic ki ar gasCeniavinmes.is,jvarcmeli,sikvdilis momlodine,Tavisi RvTaebrivi madliT uxilavad Seexo avazakis guls,wamebSi Secvala misi sulieri samyaro,misca mas sakuTari Tavis Secnobis unari da Zalac!...ai,es saswauli aris udidesi saswauli,Tumca aravis unaxavs,garda jvarcmuli avazakisa,romelmac qristes madliTve icno Tavad qriste RmerTi da es saswauli eqmna mas macxovnebeli,roca aTasobiT adamians ,romlebic Zalian xSirad xedavdnen macxovris xilul saswaulebs,ver eqmnaT sulis macxovnebeli,aramed piriqiT–dasasjeli!...xuTi aTasma kacma puri Wama.naxeT,ramdeni vinme afiqsirebda am saswauls?maT xorcieladac ganicades,radganac sWames,magram ver Seicvalnen!...maT mxolod muceli gauZRaT!–xolo naxeT avazaki–jvarcmuli,natanji,sikvdilis momlodine...wesiT RmerTze umaduri unda yofiliyo,adamianuri bunebidan gamomdinare,magram rogorc ki Seexo uxilavi madli,ganicada sulieri cvlileba,aexila sulieri Tvalebi da icno qriste!...pirveli iyo xorcielad xiluli saswauli,romelic xuTi aTasma ixila,magram iseTiveni darCnen,rogorebic iyvnen.xolo meore aris xorcielad uxilavi saswauli–saidumlo,is aravis uxilavs,garda avazakisa,romelic am zemoqmedebis Sedegad Seicvala da icno qriste da aRiara kidevac!...is amas ver izamda,rom ara es saswauli!...es saswauli ar yofila aRtacebis sagani masebisaTvis,es maTgan dafaruli iyo!...magram macxovnebeli aRmoCnda erTisTvis.es igrZno mxolod erTma da verc moaxerxa xalxisTvis eTqva rac moxda masSi!...es aris swored is saswauli,risTvisac gardamoxda Ze RmrTisa qveynad!...mTeli misi amqveyniuri cxovrebis arsi,jvarcmis mizani–codvilTa cxoneba!...amitom WeSmariti morwmune unda eZebdes swored aseT saswauls!xolo urwmuno iTxovs xorciel,xilul saswauls–mas "puri "unda–ki batono!...wmidanebs SeuZliaT miscen maT es puri,magram iqneba es saswauli maTTvis mamxilebeli da dasasjeli,radgan,rogorc ki isev moSivdebaT,es saswauli maT daaviwydebaT.

xorcieli saswauli TviT qriste RmerTs ar daufasda.maT ixiles,magram ar iwames.qriste macxovarmac uTxra uriebs:"rom ar genaxeT,codva ar geqnebodaTo!"amitom ar aResruleba dRes urwmunoTaTvis xorcielad xiluli saswaulebi,raTa codva ar gauorkecdeT!...saswaulis arsi da mizani,vimeoreb,mdgomareobs ara imaSi,rom wmidanis Zala dafiqsirdes,aramed imaSi rom macxovnebeli eqmnes codvilebs!...

saswaulis Cadena SeuZliaT borotebsac,radgan maTac SeuZliaT Zalis gamovlineba,magram maTi es"saswaulebi"mimarTulia adamianis dasapyrobad da dasaRupad.wmida mamebi gvafrTxileben bolo Jamis saswaulebze.isini,romlebmac igrZnes wmidanis uxilavi saswauli,anu ganicades sulieri cvlileba,arasodes miidrikebian sxva "saswaulebisaken" da arc borotis"saswaulebs"miiReben!...

aqve minda giTxraT,rom wmidanma es uxilavi saswauli rom moaxdinos Tqvens gulSi,amisTvis Seni Tanxmoba da survilic aris saWiro,Seni neba.es Sen unda gindodes RmerTs gauRo gulis kari da amisTvis aitano droebiTi simZimebtkivili da tanjva!

me gisurvebT Tqven,rom wrfeli guliT SesdgomodeT RmerTs da mogcemodeT mgznebare survili maradiuli cxovrebisa..da Tqvens gulSi qriste damkvidrdeba!da roca es sawauli moxdeba TqvenSi,merwmuneT,yvela sxva danarCen saswauls ixilavT Tqven,radgan maSin sxva,xorcieli saswauli ar iqneba TqvenTvis sasjeli da saziano.maSin TqvenTvis wmidanebi ar iqnebian dafarulni da "gaugebarni".wmidanis cxovrebac xom saswaulia.
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წერილი Experti » 27 ოქტ 2009, 23:07

kiTxva:

mama giorgi,wmidans SeuZlia Tqvas,rom is wmidania–aRiaros Tavisi sulieri mdgomareoba?
pasuxi:

gaaCnia vin da rogori sulieri mdgomareobis adamiani ekiTxeba mas!...wmidans SeuZlia gaexsnas adamians,romelic WeSmaritad eZebs RmerTs.mas es evaleba kidec.aseve daamtkicos Tavisi Zalis saRmrTo warmomavloba da daasaxelos im wmida moZRvris vinaoba,visi meSveobiTac gaaRwia RmerTamde!...

wmidans Tavisi wmidanobis aRiareba ki ar eSinia,rogorc es warmoudgenia bevrs.TiTqos wmidani "qebis SiSiT"gamudmebiT gaiZaxis,rom is codvilia.wmidans qebis ki ar eSinia,aramed ar unda es!...mas esmis,rom dideba ekuTvnis mxolod RmerTs!..wmidani Tu ambobs,rom is codvilia,srulebiT ar niSnavs imas,rom is im konkretul momentSia codvaSi,aramed is Tavis warsuls gulisxmobs.

wmidans wmidanoba "SemTxveviT" an kidev "proteqciiT" ki ar eZleva.is RmerTs gamozrdili da gamowrTobili hyavs.mas sakmao simtkice da Tavmdabloba gaaCnia saamisod,rom gauZlos adamianTa mier"qebas".

RmerTi Zalas ar miscems adamians,romelsac am Zalis dateva ar SeuZlia...an kidev am adamianis daRupvis mizezi gaxdes....wmidanebi sakmaod arian daculni!...wmidanisaTvis wmidanoba srulebiT ar aris "privilegiisa" da ampartavnebis sagani.es codvilebs eCvenebaT ase!..wmidanisaTvis Tavisi sulieri mdgomareoba did Zalasa da madlTan erTad,umZimesi pasuxismgeblobacaa!...es yoveldRiuri Seuwyveteli Sromaa!...da Tu gnebavT,udidesi tkivilic aris.wmidanebi dedamiwaze cxovroben sxvebisTvis!codvilis gadarCenisaTvis Sroma–urTulesi da piradi tkivilebiT aRsavse cxovrebaa!

marTali rom vTqvaT,dRes wmidanebs ki ar uWirT imis Tqma,rom isini wmidanebi arian,aramed sazogadoeba ar aris mzad amisTvis.jer samocdaaT welze met xans umtkicebdnen xalxs,rom RmerTi ar arsebobso,da miT umetes,wmidanebi.mere ki daiwyes imis mtkiceba ,rom yvelani aucileblad codvilebi unda iyvnen!...amaSi unda amoicnoT eSmakis mzakvroba!es mas awyobs,rom wmidanebi ar arsebobdenen!rom xalxi ar scnobdnen maT!swored mas awyobs codvili samRvdeloeba.Tanac dRes sazogadoebaSi arsebobs azri,rom wmidanebi uiSviaTesi gamonaklisebi arian da Tanac warsulis kuTvnileba.an kidev,arian wmidanebi,magram sxvagan da arafrisdidebiT CvenTan!CvenTan "yvela codvilia"–es aris sazogadoebis warmodgena"Tavmdablobaze."getyviT,rom aseTi "Tavmdabloba"aris borotis gamogoneba!aseTi religiuri cnobierebis pirobebSi,wmidani,ra Tqma unda,"daifareba"!magram modis dro!qarTvel ers ukve gauCnda wmidanebze sulieri moTxovnileba.morwmune ukve eZebs WeSmarit maswavlebels,mkurnalsa da sasufevlis megzurs!–"iTxovdeT da mogeceT!"

saocaria RvTis gangeba da sainteresoa wmidanTa cxovreba.Cvens gverdiT cxovroben,garegnulad arafriT gamoirCevian Cvengan,magram udidesi sulieri samyaro gaaCniaT,maTSi cxovreba mimdinareobs–WeSmariti cxovreba!

gana wmidans ar unda Cagaxedos am samyaroSi?...magram Cven ar varT mzad.am mzadyofnaSi me erTi raime kuTxiT mzadyofnas ar vgulisxmob,aramed aq Zalian bevri ram igulisxmeba!...wmidans "ampartavnulad "ki ar uxaria,rom Sen icani is,aramed is uxaria,rom Sen swor gzaze gamoxvedi da miaRwie sulierebis raRac dones,rom man ufro didi simaRleebisaken gagqaCos!

wmidans Seni sulieri Tvalebis axela uxaria,radgan amis Semdeg ukve midixar RmerTis gzaze!

wmidanTa sistema–es sulieri saxelmwifoa Tavisi ierarqiiT,Tavisi jariT!aq yvelas Tavisi daniSenuleba da adgili aqvs.am saxelmwifos ebrZvis boroti sistema,aseve sulieri saxelmwifo da es brZola qriste RmerTis didebiT mobrZanebiT dasruldeba!yvela qristians evaleba gaxdes am keTili saxelmwifos moqalaqe da miT gaaZlieros es saxelmwifo!yvelas gisurvebT am wmida saxelmwifos moqalaqeobas!
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წერილი Experti » 27 ოქტ 2009, 23:16

kiTxva:

mama giorgi,wmidani Tu ganicdis xorciel uZlurebas,fizikur tkivils,an kidev SimSilis grZnobas?
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wmidani ganicdis xorciel tkivils da avadmyofobasac,magram is yovelive amas adamianebis gamo ganicdis.loculobs ra maTze,is iRebs adamianTa codvebs,aseve sneulebasac.Tumca minda giTxraT,rom wmidani Tavisi sulieri mdgomareobidan gamomdinare,sruliad flobs Tavis fizikur sxeuls da amdenad mas SeuZlia ar gaxdes avad.miT umetes ar Seeyaros raime ukurnebeli xorcieli seni.sulis gansakuTrebuli madlmosili mdgomareoba aZlevs mas TviTaRdgenis saSualebasac.suliwmidis madliT Semosilni savsebiT janmrTelebi arian xorcieladac.is,rom wmidanebis cxovrebaSi gvxvdeba Zalian mZime sneulebis magaliTebi,imiT aixsneba,rom isini adamianTa codvebs iRebdnen sakuTar Tavze,exidebodnen maT da amitom sakuTari nebiT iRebdnen xorciel satanjvels,sxvadasxva saxis avadmyofobas da sxva saxis Seviwroebebs!...aris meore garemoebac imisa,Tu ratom miaqvT wmidanebs xorcieli tanjvebi:wmidani,sulieri ganviTarebis axal safexurze gasaRwevad,aucileblad gadis tanjvas"gaTiSul"mdgomareobaSi,anu Cveulebrivi xorcieli adamianis saxiT.am dros mas iseve stkiva, swyuria ,Sia,rogorc sxva codvil adamianebs.aseT mdgomareobaSi is wmidanur Zalas ver gamoiyenebs!

rodesac wmidans codvili gamohyavs gaime gansacdelisagan,an kidev raime codvisagan,is aucileblad gadis(iRebs Tavze)raRac saxis tanjvas da iseve ganicdis mas,rogorc Cveulebrivi adamiani–wmidanuri Zalis gamouyeneblad.wmidani iRebs ra codvilis codvebs,iseve unda itanjos xorcielad,rogorc is codvili,romlis codvac ido Tavs.wmidanuri ZaliT is mxolod droSi amoklebs codvilis tanjvas,idebs ra codvebis did moculobas erTbaSad.ise,tanjvis gauReblad ar xdeba codvis amowva da codvilis ganTavisufleba!...codvebis tyveobaSi myofi,eSmakis borkilebSia da is ise iolad ver daaRwevs Tavs.boroti ar miscems mas Tavis awevis,welSi gamarTvis saSualebas,aramed piriqiT,sul axal–axali codvebiT koWavs.swored aseT umZimes sulis mdgomareobaSi myof codvils exideba wmidani,idebs mis codvebs da am codvebis gamosasyid tanjvebsac,sneuleba iqneba es Tu sxva ram!...

wmidanebi ,RmerTamde gaRweviT wmidanTa sistemis wevrebi xdebian da iq yvelas Tavisi davaleba da amocana aqvs,moqmedeben ra msoflios gadasarCenad.amitom udides wmidanebs ara erTi da ori adamianis codvebi awevT,aramed–aTasobiT.Sesabamisad maT didi tkivilebi,sneulebebi da tanjvebi miaqvT.ise ki ,kidev vimeoreb,wmidani srulebiT janmrTelia da Tu xedavT,rom is mimarTavs eqims,samedicino preparatebiT mkurnalobs,an kidev qirurgiul Carevas saWiroebs,es mas codvil adamianTa siyvaruliT emarTeba.wmidans SeuZlia ar stkiodes,magram es amas nebayoflobiT,adamianTa usazRvro siyvaruliT akeTebs.radgan odesRac TviTonac yofila codvili da RmerTis siyvaruli avaldebulebs mas yovelive amas!

wmidans Tavis mdgomareobaSi arc stkiva da arc Sia.rogor SeiZleba mas stkiodes,roca SeuZlia gaqres da gaCndes.SeuZlia gaCndes ramdenime kilometris moSorebiT da ara mxolod suliT,aramed xorcieladac.ai,ase floben wmidanebi dros ,sivrces da sakuTar sxeuls...magram wmidanebi dedamiwaze Camodian satanjvelad–adamianTa gadasarCenad.ai,amitom aris,rom isini avlendnen did Zalas,kurnavdnen sxvebs,magram amave dros avlendnen did uZlurebasac,saWiroebdnen eqimebis daxmarebasac,adamianTagan siTbos,nugeSsa da siyvaruls.aris sxva ramec,ris gamoc wmidanebi avlendnen uZlurobebs,anu ratom "exmarebodnen" maT.Zlieri da aravisze damokidebuli wmidani –mainc Suris sababi xdeba codvil adamianebisTvis...da wmidani roca "avadaa"an "sawyalia",codvili mas SuriT ki ar uyurebs,aramed sibraluliT.aseTi wmidani misTvis ufroa axlobeli.codvili grZnobs,rom is ki aris codvili,magram SeuZlia wmidans daexmaros.ai,magaliTisTvis:wmidans miutaneT raime kerZi da is mas xels ar axlebs.jer erTi,gatkenT guls.meore,Suri Segipyrobs–es kaci xsnilSiac marxulobso.mesame–ampartavnebiT aRtkinebuli ityvi:Cemi motanili rom aris ,imitom ar axlo xeli?!...da kidev aTasi ram mogivaT TavSi.aba,vnaxoT,Tu wmidani iqve Seni TandaswrebiT gasinjavs,madlierebas gamoxatavs da getyvi,rom"sulze miuswari,mTeli dRe mSieri iyo da riT gadagixados pativiscema".maSin xom gaixarebT.jer erTi ,imitom,rom wmidanma miiRo Seni Sroma,rogorc ityvian"Seiwira"(es gamoTqma ar aris marTebuli).meoreTi da "dagafasa" da Rirsi gagxada madlierebis da mesamedac,daexmare"Sen rom sulze ar migeswro,xom darCeboda mSieri"!...naxeT,rogori saWiro adamianebi xarT?...Temas gadavuxvie,magram ,vfiqrob,ar gatkineT Tavi.rac Seexeba wmidanis "SimSils".getyviT,wmidans Tavisi madlmosilebisa da Zalmosilebidan gamomdinare SeuZlia ar "moSivdes".mas"Sia"imitom,rom mas miaqvs tanjva da kidev imitom,rom Sen gSia.Tu wmidans "moSivda",es Sen dagaRonebs,Sewuxdebi,rom is sakvebs ar Rebulobs–gaixseneT wmidanTa cxovreba.

codvilisaTvis wmidanis Wama,keTil motivTan erTad,imasac gulisxmobs,rom "isic Wams"...e.i,isic miwazea,angelozi araa,isic "Cveneburia"–marto me ki ara var xorcieli,aramed wmidanic.da is amiT amarTlebs Tavis miwier midrekilebebsvnebebisadmi da codvili "mSviddeba".

swored es aris mizezi imisa,rom wmidanebi xalxs codvilebad aCvenebdnen Tavs.codvili ufro axlobelia codvilisaTvis.didi gabriel beri xSirad usvamda masTan mimsvlelebs amgvar SekiTxvas:

–wmidani xar Tu codvili,moyvaso?–da roca dabneuli adamiani pasuxobda:

–ra Tqma unda,codvili,mamao.–gabriel beri siyvaruliT etyoda:

–Cemi Zma yofilxaro...

da es aris mTavari–siyvaruli!...siyvaruli ki siaxloviT iwyeba.wmidanebs saocari talanti aqvT RmrTisagan adamianebisdaaxloebisa,Seyvarebisa da maTi gadarCenisa.

giTxraT marTali(mamao icinis)wmidanisTvis Wama ufro mtanjvelia,vidre SimSiloba!...ise"mWameli"wmidani ufro axlobelia codvilisaTvis,vidre wmidani,romelsac SeuZlia saerTod ar Wamos.mTavari ki dedamiwaze ara wmidanis SesaZleblobebis gamovlinebaa,aramed codvil adamianTa gadarCena,visTvisac ewama qriste macxovari.

wmidani sul sxva ganzomilebis sakvebiT ikvebeba.mis suls ZaluZs gamokvebos misi sxeuli ise,rom amisaTvis mwvadi da xaWapuri ar dasWirdes(icinis).
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წერილი Experti » 01 ნოემ 2009, 17:39

kiTxva:

mama giorgi,wmidanebs aqvT Tu ara codviT dacemis safrTxe?
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wmidanebi suliT sxva ganzomilebaSi arian.amdenad,maT miwieri codvebiT dacemis safrTxe ar emuqrebaT.ise maT aqvT saSiSroeba,magram es ara aris xorcieli codvebi!maT TavianTi ganviTarebis safexuris Sesabamisi safrTxeebi aqvT,magram es Cveulebrivi codvili adamianis TvalisTvis SeumCnevelia!...amasTan dakavSirebiT minda giTxraT:erTxel CemTan iyvnen morwmuneni da mkiTxes:Tu ratom daeca ilia WavWavaZis "gandegilSi"berio.kiTxvis amgvar formulirebaSic Canda,rom isini wmidanis namdvil arsSi ver erkveodnen!...unda iTqvas isic,rom "gandegilSi"seriozul Seusabamobas aqvs adgili!nawarmoebSi aRwerili beri yvela niSniT Seesabameba wmidans,magram misi aseTi dacema yovlad Seusabamoa wmidanisaTvis!...am donis sulieri Zalis mqone beris aseTi dacema SeuZlebelia!...wmida beri sruliad akontrolebs Tavis suls,gonebasa da sxeuls.wmida bers gamocda Cabarebuli aqvs RmerTTan,Torem ise RmerTi Zalas ar miscemda!...wmida bers gaaCnia imnairi sulieri xedva,rom Sori manZilidan SeuZlia daafiqsiros ara marto masTan mimsvlelebi,aramed maTi azrebi da zraxvebic ki!...aseT bers SeeZlo sulieri zemoqmedebiT yovelnairad Seeferxebina nebismieri arseba,Tundac eSmakis aRZrulic.dascemda SiSs,SeeZlo gaexada SeuZlodac,emoqmeda gonebaze ,an keliidan gausvlelad daxmareba gaewia, ganeridebina is qali da yvelaze mTavari,aseT berebs,araTu Tavis dacva,aramed nebismieri adamianis Secvla da sulieri damuSaveba xelewifebaT!...ase rom " gandegilSi"moyvanili wmida beris sulier dones aranairad ar unda mosvloda aseTi ram!...aseTi ram SeiZleba mosvloda moRvawes,magram uZlurs,romelic jer wmidani ar gamxdara.magram nawarmoebSi aRwerili beri,kidev vimeoreb,Cans,rom Zalmosilia.Zalmosils ki aseTi SemTxveva SeuZlebelia SeemTxves.saqme imaSia,rom ilia WavWavaZes,dRes ki– wmida ilias,miuxedavad misi udidesi damsaxurebisa samSoblosa da qarTveli xalxis winaSe,am nawarmoebis Seqmnisas naTlad ar esmoda wmidanis raoba da sulieri samyaro!amasTan dakavSirebiT gavixseneb gabriel berTan Cems Sexvedras rusTavelze.gabrieli Tavis "formaSi"iyo.modioda,boboqrobda,brazobda da xmamaRla yviroda.is iyo mec mivuaxlovdi–gabrieli Tavis teqsts agrZelebda–"ra icoda ra iyo namdvili beris Zala!–brazobda iliaze–eg rogor dawerao!...ar esmoda mas wmida beris Sinagani.gabriel episkoposmac(qiqoZe)ar amxila da ar miuTiTa megobrobis gamoo!...hoda RmerTic gaunawyendao!...bers ra waaqcevs!...bers qali ki ara,eSmakic ver waaqcevs!bers ras uzams qalio,beri cecxlia!beri moRriale lomia!...xom meTanxmebi,Cemo Zmao!"gabrieli piruTvneli da marTlismTqmeli iyo yovelTvis.mere"damSvidda",sul gulSi ixuta ilia,cremlebi Rvara:"rogor gaimetes,rogor gaimetes, saqarTvelos didi Svili!"

adre giTxariT,wmidanebze realurad Zalian bundovani codna arsebobs dRes sazogadoebaSi.wmidani beri sxvaa,wmidad mcxovrebi–sxvaa!wmida beri Zalmosilia,wmidad mcxovrebi ki,miuxedavad keTilmoSurneobisa,sanam ar gaaRwevs RmerTamde,uZluria.TandaTan wmidanebi namdvilis arsSi gagarkveven.
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წერილი Experti » 01 ნოემ 2009, 17:44

kiTxva:

mama giorgi,wm.mamis Semdegi sityvebi:"dRes urwmuno ufro gaugebs morwmunes,vidre morwmune wmidans"–rogor unda gavigoT?
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es imitom,babua,rom dRevandeli morwmune cotaTiRa Tu gansxvavdeba urwmunosagan.urwmunos RmerTi ar swams,morwmunes ki dRes ar esmis RmerTis.isini axlos arian suliT erTmaneTTan!...urwmuno ar eZebs RmerTs,xolo morwmunes ki hgonia,rom eZebs,magram ise,rom ver aRwevs RmerTamde!sul sxvaa wmidani!is qristes naTliTaa Semosili.man sZlia wuTisofels.is metyvelebs sxva enaze,misi codna da swavleba emyareba pirad gamocdilebas da ara mxolod wignebs.wmidani suliT sxva ganzomilebaSia,roca dRevandeli morwmune ver gascdenia wuTisofels.misi codna SezRuduli da bundovania.is RmerTze mxolod imens da kiTxulobs,roca wmidans gaRweuli aqvs RmerTamde da codna RvTisgan aqvs!

radganac dRevandel morwmunes ver uZlevia wuTisoflis suli da piradi vnebebi,icnobs mxolod warmosaxul da ara namdvil RmerTs!...wmidans ki gaRweuli aqvs RmerTamde.is icnobs da ganicdis RmerTs realurad.aqedan gamomdinare,dRevandeli morwmunis sulieri samyaro Zalian gansxavdeba wmidanis sulieri samyarosagan.Sesabamisad gansxvavebulia maTi codna,xedva da religiuri midgoma.wmidani cxovrobs WeSmaritebaSi.is piruTvnelia rogorc sakuTari Tavis,aseve sxvebi mimarTac.is aswavlis RmerTze imas,rac Tavad RmerTma gauxsna mas.aswavlis ise.rogorc es RmerTs unda da ara ise rogorc awyobT da warmoudgeniaT adamianebs!Sesabamisad, misi codna da swavleba ar emTxveva morwmunis warmosaxviT codnas.wmidanis sityva amxels da angrevs morwmunis warmosaxviT,araWeSmarit samyaros.es ki saSinlad mtkivneulia morwmunisaTvis.radganac is ampartavania!misTvis miuRebeli xdeba axali realoba.is miCveuli iyo gamogonil,warmosaxul da misTvis sasurvel "sinamdviles"RmerTze.ampartavan suls Caketili aqvs WeSmaritebis Secnobis karebi!...mas ki hgonia,rom morwmunea,magram is codvis fesvebs arc ki SebrZolebia WeSmaritad da ar aris Tavisufali codvebisagan....rodesac ar ebrZvi wuTisoflis suls,es suli Semodis adamianSi da aseT adamians ukve awyobs iseTi "WeSmariteba",romelic mis sinamdviled iqceva da aranairad ar amxels mas!...is marxulobs,loculobs,swams "RmerTi",magram iseTi,rogoric mas surs da awyobs!...RmerTi ki aseTi ar aris!!!wmidanis codna RmerTze WeSmariti da zeciuria,xolo aseTi morwmunisa ki,cru da xorcieli.swored amitom ver"jdeba "wmidani dRevandeli morwmunis arsebaSi da roca morwmune ver Rebulobs WeSmarit sityvas,is an gaurbis,an kidev ewinaaRmdegeba mas.

aseTi morwmune cdilobs daicvas ara WeSmaritebis suli,romelic amxels mas,aramed wuTisoflis suli,romelic aamebs mas!...aseT dros morwmunisaTvis urwmuno ufro "axlobeli" xdeba,radgan urwmuno ar exeba mis Sinagan samyaros....xolo wmidani ki –piriqiT,miuRebeli,radgan is erTianad ungrevs mis "WeSmarit"samyaros,sulier codnas,"Rvawls",miznebsa da cru imedebs!...gavixsenoT rogor eubneboda qriste macxovari ebrael morwmuneT:Tqven imitom ver migebT da mewinaaRmedegebiT,rom wuTisoflisani xarTo....da dResac,morwmuneTa didi umetesobis rwmena da Sinagani wyoba xorcielia da wuTisoflis suli aSTobs maT da ver Rebuloben zeciur swavlebas!...aqve moviyvanoT pavle mociqulis sityvebi korinTelTa mimarT Tqmuli:"me ar SemeZlo TqvenTan laparaki,Zmano,rogorc sulierebTan,aramed rogorc xorcielebTan,rogorcqristeSi CvilebTan (kor.3.1)rZes gasmevdiT Tqven da ara magar saWmels,vinaidan maSin ar SegeZloT da axlac ar ZalgiZT(kor 3.2)imitom,rom jer kidev xorcielni xarT..."(kor 3.3)

wmidani sulieri ganviTarebis maRal safexurzea,amitom misi sityvis miReba morwmuni mxridanac moiTxovs garkveul sulier dones.SeuZlebelia nul klasSi bavSvma gaigos umaRlesi maTematikis sakiTxebi.amitom wmidanis sityvis miReba morwmunisaganac moiTxovs sulier wvrTnasa da keTilgonivrul ganviTarebas.es morwmunezea damokidebuli.vinc muSaobs sakuTar Tavze,eZebs WeSmaritebas,eZebs RmerTs uangarod da ara amsofliuri keTildReobisTvis,aucileblad miuaxlovdeba RmerTs.roca RmrTisadmi swrafva gulwrfelia,Tavisufali miwieri angarebisagan,maSin aseTi swrafve xdeba misi sulieri zrdis sawindari.radganac morwmune isev nul klasSia,mas ar SeuZlia wmidanis sulieri swavlebis,didi codnis miReba.amitom aris bevri ram dafaruli,ase vTqvaT,Caketili,Tavad wmidanebis mierve,radgan didi codna,ubralod rom vTqvaT,Zalian saxifaToa sulierad moumzadebeli admianebisaTvis.

pavle mociqulis sityvebi:"Cven bevri gvaqvs salaparako,magram Znelia ganmarteba,radgan yurmZimeni gaxdiTo"–sruliad exeba dRevandel morwmunesac,"vinaidan drois mixedviT Tu vimsjelebT,Tqven maswavleblebi unda yofiliyaviT,magram Tqven kvlav unda gaswavlon RvTis sityvis pirveli sawyisebi.Tqven magari saWmeli ki ara,rZe gWirdebaT(ebr 5.12),vinaidan yoveli,vinc rZiT ikvebeba,gamoucdelia simarTlis sityvaSi,radgan Cvilia(ebr 5.14).magari saWmeli gankuTvnilia srulyofilTaTvis,romelTa grZnobani CveviT gawafulia keTilisa da borotis gasarCevad(ebr 5.14).swored am srulyofilebisaken unda miiRwvodes morwmune.esaa misi mizani la daniSnuleba!...rogorc pavle mociquli ambobs–"magari saWmeli gankuTvnilia srulyofilTaTvis"–e.i.maTTvis romelTac keTilisa da borotis garCeva SeuZliaT.swored aseTebs miecemaT RmrTisagan "magari saWmeli"–anu sulieri codna,swavleba da saidumloebani."magari saWmlis miReba"morwmuneTaTvis droSi–sulieri zrdis da ganviTarebis pirobebSia SesaZlebeli da ara sulierad Cvilobis asakSi.swored amitom,dRevandel morwmunes,romelic sulieral aris Cvili da "rZiT" gamokvebas saWiroebs,ar SeuZlia wmidanis miReba da gageba.pavle mociquli jer kidev 2000 wlis win eubneboda maT,rom drois mixedviT,Tqven ukve maswavleblebi unda iyoTo da ara Cvilebi!....da Cven vxedavT,rom ori aTasi wlis Semdegac samyaros sulieri mdgomareoba isev Cvilobis asakSia,romelsac"rZiT"kveba sWirdeba,metic,es rZec sufTa da uvnebeli saxiT ukve Zneli saSovnelia!...vinaidan rZec mowamlulia borotis mzakvruli manqanebiT qveynierebaze!rogorc vxedavT,morwmuneebs pavle mociqulis xanaSic ar esmodaT da ver igebdnen wmidanis swavlebas da raRa unda vTqvaT Semdgom aTaswleulebze.

marTlmadideblobis mTeli istoria,marTali rwmenis,wmidanebis swavlebis devnis istoriaa.

wuTisofeli ver Rebulobda"magar saWmels",xolo mismomwodebels fizikurad spobda,radgan ar iyo misi "sulis".morwmune Zalian nela viTardeboda.amitom misTvis yovelTvis miuRebeli iyo magari "saWmeli".gavixsenoT Tundac wmida maqsime aRmsarebeli,romelic marto icavda marTal sarwmunoebas.gana isini,vinc ebrZodnen wmida maqsimes–mefe,patriarqi,rigiTi adamianebi,Tavs morwmuneebad ar miiCnevdnen?!gana maqsime maTTvis ar iyo miuRebeli da gaugebari?...an wmida kirioni,Cveni patriarqi,romelmac maSin sasuliero pirebs uTxra:Tu xelmeored ar iSobiT,Tqven aRaraferi geSvelebaTo!...mis sikvdilSi marto policielebis xeli ki ar urevia,aramed im urwmuno da gadagvarebuli sasuliero pirebisac!...

adamianTa miwieri,vnebebiT aRsavse yofiereba ebrZoda da dResac ebrZvis WeSmaritebas!

fizikurad spobda boroti WeSmaritebis matarebel,didi sulis adamianebs.man yvelafers Seaxo Tavisi binZuri xeli,gadaakeTa da daamaxinja swavlebebi,wignebi,gadmocemebi,"Sealamaza" da adamianTa miwier moTxovnilebebs miusadaga wmida mamaTa tanjviT mopovebuli swavlebani.mowamla da gadaagvara adamianTa cnobiereba.mTeli erebi moswyvita marTalsarwmunoebas.gamozarda sakuTari kadrebi–"sulieri winamZRvrebi da moZRvrebi",moamzada msoflio misi Zalauflebis gabatonebisaTvis!
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